Curse

lauratos landof · Apr 17, 2007, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Hmm with the charging strike build, i just dont have energy to keep up all the enchants, at the same time deal damage and survive @ smites ... of course i have zealous, but it isnt nearly enough. Any suggestions?

€ with Warriors Endurance, i mostly die cuz the graspings have too much life, gg victorous sweep.
I HATE THIS CREATURES

mwpeck · Apr 17, 2007, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Maybe I need more practice, but I got killed by a group of 5 smites....I was running 14 str/10 Scythe and 11 Wind, because I dont have a scyth with 20% enchanting(yet). I took the first 2 groups fine, but with low health towards the end.

It seemed like they were doing damage faster then I could heal, anyone else have this problem? I'm keeping Rending Aura up constantly, as well as dolyak and defy pain, and I am using Victorious sweep as soon as it gets recharged.

Evilsod · Apr 17, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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Originally Posted by lauratos landof

Hmm with the charging strike build, i just dont have energy to keep up all the enchants, at the same time deal damage and survive @ smites ... of course i have zealous, but it isnt nearly enough. Any suggestions?

€ with Warriors Endurance, i mostly die cuz the graspings have too much life, gg victorous sweep.
I HATE THIS CREATURES

The best suggestion i can think of... use Konings build on page 3, just with 14 Strength, 12 Scythe and 8 Wind Prayers. I've been interrupted constantly by the grasps for over a minute and still didn't die from lack of healing.... its quicker to kill the groups alone instead of 2 at a time.

lauratos landof · Apr 17, 2007, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Ok ill try it out, but main problem is energy.. anyway, thank you

My-way Ftw · Apr 17, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Counterattack + Zealous Scythe, you shouldnt have a problem.

And evil, i use original build, so Mystic Regen is up vs grasps so always ^enchanted

Yet to try Konings build, busy running keys atm :P

Evilsod · Apr 17, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Pff, who needs Mystic Regen

This build is just amusing... slashing a mob of smites down in about 15-20 seconds at best.

Port Sledge rules btw

mwpeck · Apr 17, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

are you talking about a mob of 3? because it takes me at least 30-40 seconds to take out a mob of 5. And I tend to have problems with staying alive vs 5 smites, I keep everything up and what not, but I dont have an enchanting so I have to use 11 wind instead of boosting my scythe up 2 more.

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 17, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

if your having problems with energy the best thing to do is keep your energy pool below the max number gained from warriors endurance

where as instead of having 25e and having warriors end when it reachs the cap guessing around 21-23e u drop your energy below that and it will never end from reaching the energy limit.

thats how it used to work ^_^

King's Spectre · Apr 17, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

With Koning's build I use and elemental scythe of enchanting, knight's armor, and a sup absorb rune. No energy problems (well, no energy needed!) and the elemental weapon does nice damage to the graspings.

Koning · Apr 17, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

The elemental scythe is indeed best versus graspings (figured out when i ran smites on my derv

)

And now i play with 14 strenght (helm+sup) 12 scythe and 8 wind. Its sooo nice now, just did a run of 18 min, and can even do it faster I think

.

Btw, I've recorded a run and placed it on Youtube, but it hasn't shown up yet think I have to wait a bit longer so youtuby can process it. Ill come back here was it's online, if any1 is interested

so here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYX4ZhN51Uc (don't know if it's already working, cause it seems that youtube has to process it)

Oh, btw I've been thinking of switching out powerattack with wild blow. Hitting those criticals is nice indeed, but have to test it if it's better than powerattack.

Evilsod · Apr 17, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Koning

Oh, btw I've been thinking of switching out powerattack with wild blow. Hitting those criticals is nice indeed, but have to test it if it's better than powerattack.

Wild Blow = 8s recharge
Power Attack = 3s recharge

Overall you probably benefit alot more from spamming Power Attack thanks to the +38 armour ignoring damage than you would with Wild Blow.

ahbuh · Apr 17, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

how bout drunken blow for the add effects instead of power attack

-.- · Apr 17, 2007, 11:12 PM // 23:12

I doubt you'll have enough points to place into Tactics to get high enough damage. The conditions will easily be removed by the Smite's Mend condition.

Evilsod · Apr 17, 2007, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Tbh i don't think you can improve Koning's build much more than fiddling with the stats.

As far as the skills go there are no better choices. Lyssa's Assault can't replace Counterattack. The only debatable 1 is Wild Blow for Power Attack.

mwpeck · Apr 18, 2007, 12:39 AM // 00:39

I use a fiery scythe of enchanting, and I must say, it worked quite well.....had a little bit of trouble with energy, main waiting for counterattack to get some more back, but I only have 20 base. With a zealous, there should be no energy problems, not sure how much the fiery mod helps with smites, but it drops the graspings quicker.

Koning · Apr 18, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVyMYm8Mobg (other movies didn't work

)

Wild blow has indeed a longer recharge, 8 sec. in 24 sec, u do 3*130 (if thats the critical dmg rate) = 390 damage with it. with power attack, you do in 24 sec 8*36= 288 armor ignoring damage, + 8 swipes of 9-41. lets say an average of 25, so 8*25=another 200 damage, makes it 488 total.

Guess power attack is better than

(given that you spam it when it's recharged, but you do almost 100 more damage with it so its still better even if you attack only 6 instead of 8 times, and it doesn't cause you to lose adrenaline)

Evilsod · Apr 18, 2007, 11:28 AM // 11:28

My critical for hitting with Power Attack is 136, meaning the critical without skills is 98 damage. With Power Attack, the very minimum you could hit for is about 60 (i have no idea what the minimum scythe hit is on the Smites, buti guess its around 20), so even if both of your Power Attacks all hit on the lowest possible number in the 8 seconds (including the time it took to actually use teh skill) you'll have done it twice, so still hit for more than Wild Blow.

Not to mention the Grasps whose critical is about 35 without skills i think. Never really looked, always been watching the energy bar in the vain hope i can actually use an attack skill

King's Spectre · Apr 18, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Grasps whose critical is about 35 without skills i think. Never really looked, always been watching the energy bar in the vain hope i can actually use an attack skill

Lol I do the same thing. If you time counterattack *just* right, you fill your bar just as the fear me! goes off. Then you can get in a power attack and a sweep.

The only thing I've changed is swapping out power attack for sprint. I just hate loosing 1k due to Aatxe shenanigans.

mwpeck · Apr 18, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by King's Spectre

Lol I do the same thing. If you time counterattack *just* right, you fill your bar just as the fear me! goes off. Then you can get in a power attack and a sweep.

The only thing I've changed is swapping out power attack for sprint. I just hate loosing 1k due to Aatxe shenanigans.

I was thinking of doing something similar, you have to kinda get lucky with the spawns, and be a decent runner to get past the aatxes right now.....I can get past them but I would much rather have a constant run speed.

giammy 4 ever · Apr 18, 2007, 02:41 PM // 14:41

video please